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10 Things You Didn’t Know About the Ancient Greeks

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Most of what we know about the ancient Greeks has come to us through their literature, comedies and poetry, as well as through their artwork that portrayed scenes of their daily lives. Archaeological digs give us an even deeper insight into how they lived and worshiped, and it is through the endless work of scholars that we are able to piece together the mysteries of ancient Greece. →Subscribe for new videos every day! https://www.youtube.com/user/toptenznet?sub_confirmation=1 Find more lists at: http://www.toptenz.net Entertaining and educational top 10 lists from TopTenzNet! Subscribe to our Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TopTenz/ Business inquiries to [email protected] Other TopTenz Videos: 10 Things You Probably Didn’t Know About Prehistoric America https://youtu.be/KiEuCVQsTHk 10 of the Most Heavily Guarded Places on Earth https://youtu.be/M2SRri1rzWc Coming up: 10. Almost Every Family had a Slave 9. Slaves Tortured in Court 8. Marriage and Having Children was a Duty 7. Divorce was Allowed 6. Military Service 5. The Education of Girls 4. Different Types of Sacrifices and Offerings 3. Beer was a Woman’s Drink 2. Chamber Pots and Outdoor Etiquette 1. Ankle Deep in Waste Source/Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:David_-_The_Death_of_Socrates.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charicles_-_or,_Illustrations_of_the_private_life_of_the_ancient_Greeks_-_with_notes_and_excursuses_(1889)_(14595424507).jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arte_greca,_pietra_tombale_di_donna_con_la_sua_assistente,_100_ac._circa.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_collared_slaves_-_Ashmolean_Museum.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mines_1.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dougga_Banquet.jpg http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/ImagesGR/slave4.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amphora_olive-gathering_BM_B226.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_marriage_vows.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:APULIA_ANTICHI_VASI_GRECI.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_wedding_of_Peleus_and_Thetis,_by_Joachim_Wtewael.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Preparations_for_a_wedding_-_ancient_Greek_ceramic_painting.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pyxis01_pushkin.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peplos_scene_BM_EV.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_Phalanx.jpg https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Young_Spartans_National_Gallery_NG3860.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hilaire_Germain_Edgar_Degas_-_Young_Spartan_Girls_Challenging_Boys_-_1961.334_-_Art_Institute_of_Chicago.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_Girls_Picking_up_Pebbles_by_the_Sea.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spartan_girl_in_race_at_run,_before_450_BC,_Plaster_cast,_Hostinn%C3%A9,_188293.jpg https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jean-Jacques-Fran%C3%A7ois_Le_Barbier_-_A_Spartan_Woman_Giving_a_Shield_to_Her_Son.jpg
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TopTenz (4 months ago)
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iii SCOOP iii (2 days ago)
U talk of ancient greece like it was a nation lol
Yubi K. (2 months ago)
Ancient Greeks were pretty interesting. And weird.
Petteri Tuovinem (2 months ago)
lol it seems sparta was better for women than men xD
Keyser94 (2 months ago)
So that is the reason why men have the custom to urinate against a three? Other than the instinct to mark their territory.
RealmRabbit (3 months ago)
It kind of depends on the city-state... Spartan society was quite different from Athenian society...
Charalampos Kondylis (3 months ago)
In general there are rarely mistakes to your videos, however you've messed it a bit to this one. Just for the record the first sewerage systems dating back to 3000BC. were these of the Hindus and the Minoans, also some Aztec tribes but I do not recall dating. The only epidemics we've had in Hellas were due to war and sieges such as in The pelopolesian War. Athens and Delos had sewerage systems, public toilets, and baths since the 5th century BC. Speaking of Rome even by mistake reminds us where from, Europe ever found out about such stuff.
Johnny Shields (3 months ago)
For the record some of these refer to a very limited time period. In ancient ancient Greece, slaves were less common as it was just harder to get them and women did work as a necessity. With the growth of the nation, that changed, slaves took over many jobs. It is pretty much a replica of the industrial boom forcing women out of the loom and into the kitchen.
Kristen Sorensen (4 months ago)
Clearly the Roman sewer system was one reason why their population was healthier than the Greeks. They had an amazing total water infrastructure.
pop (2 months ago)
which they adopted from the greeks.This video is historically incorrect and rather offensive, using no evidence.
Robby Robby (4 months ago)
Still waiting for a correction on the video about 10 movies with plot holes
You look like the dude from Biographics.
Goo Lagoon (4 months ago)
You forgot to mention the rampant pedophilia... I can't blame you though, it'd probably get the video demonetized.
Goo Lagoon (2 months ago)
@pop Loads of it. Pederasty was widespread in Classical Athens. There's even painted pottery showing relations between men and adolescent boys.
pop (2 months ago)
any evidence besides rumors?
Chris (4 months ago)
Quality of this video was poor. I find it quite arbitrary quoting 'facts' using Wikipedia as your source... Appreciate you guys churn out a video every other day, but every now and then it would be nice to see a scholarly article in the reference list.
macsnafu (4 months ago)
I kept thinking he was talking about Rome.
rgerber (4 months ago)
The Spartans - when gay was actually a sing of manliness...
Carlos Vera Hernández (2 months ago)
not in Sparta but in the rest of Greece (Corinthium,Tebas,Athens,etc)
Malvictis (4 months ago)
Why did you suddenly start talking about divorce in ancient Rome?
John Becich (4 months ago)
I admire and enjoy your many videos, Mr. Whistler. But I am dismayed that #3 (beer and wine) is included, while the commonality of infanticide (in Sparta, conspicuously) is nowhere to be heard in this essay.
Chris Hansen (4 months ago)
Twinks ' (4 months ago)
Simon it would be really good to get a video regarding the question: Can you simply contact a single doctor and ask for a complete full medical exam and how complicated? I think it would be rather interesting. Thanks
TheCriminalViolin (4 months ago)
I knew most of this already.
Victor Y. (4 months ago)
Great video, thank you!
Lisa 1986 (4 months ago)
I’ve gone from one bald man with a beards video and I’m on another bald man with a beards video. I love Greek mythology and Egyptology
L Daniel (4 months ago)
Garbage video made for garbage mindless zombies
de4th1snt3nough (4 months ago)
Greek's aren't Romans??? Are you too dumb to look that up before you wrote this mostly crap quasi fact video up?
Karlo Kupres (4 months ago)
what is the name of the background music?
Jae Caesar (4 months ago)
Phillip II of Macedon: “If I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city.” Sparta: “If.”
General Durandal (4 months ago)
Torture doesn't work. One would say almost anything to make the pain stop, if they say they didn't do it the hundredth time, but they they did after torture, it very well might be to make the pain stop, not because it was the truth.
pop (2 months ago)
there is NO historical evidence of such things, this is clearly a propaganda video.
Jae Caesar (4 months ago)
Another great video. History videos always seems to be the best
bev davis (4 months ago)
Alcibiades was such a party animal his rich young wife tried to divorce him. He stopped her.
Hestika kala (4 months ago)
Gee, not much has changed in Greece
pop (2 months ago)
Ian Moore (4 months ago)
3:20 yeah but this is Greece
alexys q (4 months ago)
Oh, dear: it sounds *such* the delightful and charming life; such a *lovely* culture...place...and, times *({:* \ ....! <3
Oscar Trent01 (4 months ago)
Greece's polluted streets are what San Francisco streets are based upon...
pop (2 months ago)
no polluted streets, Greece had a sewage system, l really think so low of this little man who made such a lying video on youtube.
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
Oscar Trent01: You talk as if all of S.F. Rudiculous! Pacific Heights, Sunset, Avenues, North Beach are not Market Street, Tenderloin, Mission District, etc.
Yo i (4 months ago)
Big 'Un (4 months ago)
3:15 - Ooops!! LOL
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
You didn't add the Spartans selected newborns that were defective or didn't measure up and hurled them to their death from a cliff!(Hitler alluded favorably many times to the Spartans as well as the Greeks). The Greeks also forced the very old to veil their faces since they detested ugliness!
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
bev davis: It may have been at another sight(s) or they may have been buried elsewhere later or some other yet unknown discovered explanation!
bev davis (4 months ago)
They have found no infants skeletons at the supposed sight.
Nathan Caravaggio (4 months ago)
"10 Things You Didn’t Know About the Ancient Greeks"? Really?! All of these were taught in lower and higher education. Who didn't know these? Is the educational system that awful these days?
Big 'Un (4 months ago)
Some school systems in some countries teach a "censored" version of history. All hail the Internet!!
Charlie Cross (4 months ago)
I consider wine effimenate (sp)
Justin Stoermann (4 months ago)
For those wondering how strong the wine was back then many anceint writers warn against bringing wine to close to an open flame
bev davis (4 months ago)
Spartans made a Helot stay drunk to show the young the dangers of drinking too much.
localmeanderer (4 months ago)
it sounds like ancient sparta was the gynocentric equivalent of what we have today--not what we've been taught . . .
Joe Beard (4 months ago)
@bev davis but the men slept in barracks right?
bev davis (4 months ago)
Sparta was tribal. There was no male or female us vs them. Women weren't abused by the men, and Spartans did marry for love. Read the stories of Acrotatus and Chilonis or Panteus' wife.
Lessli Silverman (4 months ago)
Xion (4 months ago)
A video as to why your bald? No joke what causes that? Your a fly guy with a shiny globe so I mean offense. It would just be epic to hear such a professional posh gentlemen explain the possible reasonings. Like the dad at pawn stars who said his brain got so big it pushed the hair out. I accuse you of such a claim :) What's the truth? Much love: The End
wiston Lawsons (4 months ago)
They drinked port wine cool
Cellphone Dave (4 months ago)
I'm sure The festival of Dionysus was a favorite among the Greeks.
MyTV (4 months ago)
Ah, the noble tradition of the inbreeding of the rich and powerful! How could this go wrong?
Brian Barlow (4 months ago)
MyTV the ancient Egyptians nobility were known for that to keep their blood line “pure.” If you look at ancient sculptures of some, you can tell they have deformities in them.
Browning (4 months ago)
Simon I am now treating my athletes foot just wanted you to know. Will keep you updated.
morningstar (4 months ago)
Lazy. Poor. Questionable.
Caleb Kitteringham (4 months ago)
As for the rules from Hesiod on where to piss. The rules are also interpreted as joke; for not peeing facing the sun it basically don’t piss blind. For the rule of facing the wall it’s intended to avoid pissing against wind. That may sound odd for an Ancient Greek writer to care about but this does come from a text that includes many other examples of joke advice and even tricks to finding the perfect wife. Further, the text this comes from is a book of advised ways of acting not actual rules. Though for the record your interpretation is just as fair lacking evidence to prove either one fully.
kulio nuel (4 months ago)
Ankle deep
Zaxaris Petixos (4 months ago)
The greeks a few hundreds years ago still used to say that they where romans it is how you are half nigerian and half mexicoispanoportugeseitalian and you say that you are american
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
Zaxaris Petixos: Your name indicates you are from Greece and are modern Greek, but you and everyone in present day Greece are not ancient Greeks who were the greatest! Because of conquests you and the rest are mongrels just like I'd say 80% of Americans who were never uniformly racial: English, Celtic, Dutch (mixture eventually of these) and moreso later!!!
justin beath (4 months ago)
Wtf are you on about
New Jones (4 months ago)
You facked up big time swapping Rome and Greece.
New Jones (4 months ago)
very very very very very very..... you have autism?
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
New Jones: Very very very very clever: "you Facked up"! Lol.
Colin McEwen (4 months ago)
Rome, Greece...they're all pink in the middle
USS Gray Ghost (4 months ago)
Request for a video one 10 facts about USS Constitution I can name two she is the oldest commissioned war ship still afloat HMS Victory lost that when she was permanently dry docked and she is the only ship of state in the world
Mouse that Roared (4 months ago)
Poor video. A mix of references to Greece, Greeks, Roman(?). There were different city states with very explicitly different cultures and beliefs.
Arthas Menethil (4 months ago)
Most people lump all Americans together even though Simon in the UK is closer to Moscow then people in LA or Seattle are to Florida or DC, so the gap between Rome and Athens isnt too wide by our standards. Still dumb either way, it plays into the whole "ancient Grome" trope.
Jerel March (4 months ago)
like a rock (4 months ago)
I would venture a guess that ,after watching this video ,that there isn't a damn soul who isn't glad they didn't live back then.😖
Carlos C3rd (4 months ago)
Hmmm ancient maya and Aztec and ancient eastern cultures had some sort of sewage systems...
Great video! I’ll have to get together with all my Greek friends and ask them if they know this lol
digapygmy70 (4 months ago)
You, when encountering time travel: omg I wanna go to Ancient Greece!!! Me, an intellectual: Don't take me back any further than before federal food preparation and health laws
Bill Sugden (4 months ago)
Not before modern dentistry and anaesthesia
dReaMcAtChER (4 months ago)
Johnny sinns 😍 😂
Banix16 (4 months ago)
When did Rome become part of Greece?
Justin Hale (4 months ago)
@Jae Caesar Greece in the Roman era describes the period of Greek history when Ancient Greece was dominated by the Roman republic (509 – 27 BC), the Roman Empire (27 BC – AD 395), and the Byzantine Empire (AD 395 – 1453). The Roman era of Greek history began with the Corinthian defeat in the Battle of Corinthin 146 BC.
Jae Caesar (4 months ago)
Justin Hale that timeline is wrong, that’s how long the Roman republic lasted, not how long the romans controlled Greece. Roman control of Greece started in about 146 BC, but wasn’t truly established until after the battle of Actium in 31 BC. It was then a part of Roman territory until 395 AD, at which point it was part of the Byzantine empire, which lasted until 1453.
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
ITT: Woosh...
Ricky H (4 months ago)
wow such knowledge, such beer
Justin Hale (4 months ago)
Greece was under Roman Republic(509 – 27 BC)
Jim Fortune (4 months ago)
3:15 How does Roman divorce law belong in this video?
Ricky H (4 months ago)
@Arthas Menethil same gods different name
Jim Fortune (4 months ago)
@Arthas Menethil They both wore sheets and sandals, right? lol
Arthas Menethil (4 months ago)
i had a teacher who told the class "Rome and Greece were basically the same thing anyways".
Marco Meijer (4 months ago)
@3:17 Ancient Rome? I thought we were talking about Greece?
Jae Caesar (4 months ago)
Harrison Ballinger not really. The romans took inspiration from the Greeks in some regards but had a lot of their own systems and cultural practices
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
@Justin Hale That's irrelevant, what would matter is if Rome was ever under the control of Greece.
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
@Michael Krämer It works as a quick & dirty analogy, but not literally, no.
Justin Hale (4 months ago)
Greece was under Roman Republic(509 – 27 BC)
Michael Krämer (4 months ago)
@Harrison Ballinger You know very little about either of them if you think that.
Laz Toth (4 months ago)
I have a question how was it decided 365 days was a year
Because that's how many days it takes for the earth to orbit the sun if it's rounded up to the whole day .....It's actually 365 and a 1/4 ...hence the leap year every 4 years
Hannibal Ben Barca (4 months ago)
Life style sounds very ancint Islamic, also the laws are not that far from Sharia. From 5, 4,3 and 1 not that Islamic. 2 Muslims should not face Makkah when taking care of business.
Hannibal Ben Barca (4 months ago)
@sachikoaichan Islam probably took the covering up from another source. The lifeafter heaven an hell is also a Greek/Egyptian concept.
sachikoaichan (4 months ago)
Women in ancient Greece also wore a veil or covered their hair to an extent.
jaspr1999 (4 months ago)
While watching this I remembered the movie, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure and them picking up Socrates. I can just imagine the same scene done realistically. Since the reaction of them walking through the old west they commented on not stepping into the crap in the street. I know, weird thought.
jahovia82 disdik (4 months ago)
My peeples was tortured 3400 yrs ago, we was kingz n da took us from our land. I still feel the strugglez to this day. Oh wait
pop (2 months ago)
SufiFan62 Gestalt (4 months ago)
Where did the ancient Greeks get their servants? Slave-A-Lot?
Shol'va (4 months ago)
0:50 look at that schlong tho
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
Shol'va: Obviously you're a size queen(probably from SF, CA)!
Duncan (4 months ago)
There is a lot of conflating greek and roman culture here. Even the images you are showing are covering romans not greeks.
Joe Blow (4 months ago)
Yup. I commented the same.
TheCriminalViolin (4 months ago)
The Romans were the direct descendants of the Ancient Greeks. So technically they were Greek people. Without the Greeks of Old, there would never have been any iteration of the Roman Empires.
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
This video is specifically about "Ancient Greece", not just about any culture that's controlled Greece, or even any culture that controlled Greece in 'ancient times'. It's more like saying not everyone who lived in America was a member of a pre-Columbian Native American society.
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
@vanagandr Yeah, so did western Europe in the 18th century, does that mean we can just substitute them in for the Greeks too?
Brantley Hester (4 months ago)
Did you watch his Q&A? Simon said they don't make mistakes
kimon114 (4 months ago)
There you go... I knew everything on the "10 Things You Didn’t Know About the Ancient Greeks" list... I must be Greek.... Hey, yes I am!!!
kimon114 (4 months ago)
@Giwrgos Dram Ξέρω 'γω? Μισό Έλληνα? Πλάκα κάνω αδελφέ.... Ίσως δεν έχεις τα χρόνια μου σκυμμένος πάνω σε βιβλία!
Giwrgos Dram (4 months ago)
Hey I am Greek and I knew half of them. What does that make me then?
RockThe Red870 (4 months ago)
So you’re telling me Assassins Creed Odyssey wasn’t a very accurate representation of ancient great cities because they were severely lacking in shit accumulation? 😂 I kinda wanna find a way to mod it to fix that 😂
Nexus of ice (4 months ago)
Did you say there were three ways to get divorced in ancient Rome? Wasn't the title about the Greeks?
Nexus of ice (4 months ago)
@Christel Headington I approve of this reply. Lol
Christel Headington (4 months ago)
His mind was roamin'.
the angry australian (4 months ago)
I'd have lasted 5 seconds as a Spartan
the angry australian (4 months ago)
I'm sure there was a band of 10 000 elite hoplites that came from somewhere that were exclusively male lovers whose relationships led to a greater impetus to fight and stand to the last...dudes probly right bout Spartans being against homosexuality it doesn't fit with their logic regarding how tgey treated females which was better than most other Greeks
Joe Beard (4 months ago)
Nah they abandoned you by a hill if you looked sickly as a baby, you'd last a little while
bev davis (4 months ago)
@Arthas Menethil Spartan girls beat up gay men, and I am convinced they also killed them later on. The gay fantasy is a lie. Spartans mistreated gay men and homosexuality. Go read Plutarch.
N. Smiley (4 months ago)
A soft bed actually is terrible for your spine; you wake up feeling so much more refreshed if you fall asleep on a hard, flat surface; bathing too frequently can damage the body's cuticle and really mess with your exterior microbiome, making you more susceptible to disease; and it's not like the soldiers were raping one another; is there something wrong with consensual sex with your 'bros'? it increases morale.
Arthas Menethil (4 months ago)
@jahovia82 disdik The night would be the hard part: Greeks beleived that male on male relationships were more manly and that they encouraged loyalty to your unit. The Spartans also beleived hard exercise, sleeping on pallets, and crappy food made you tougher while sleeping with women too much, bedding, and bathing made you weaker. So after spending all day breaking your back you'd get to go home to your pallet and be... "romanced".... by a bunch of sweaty muscled up Spartans. Basiclly Spartan nights would be alot like prison, only with worse food, a worse bed, and probably even more aggressive sex from even tougher dudes.
Jessica . (4 months ago)
Love your videos. Keep up the great work 😁
theoldar (4 months ago)
Only 801 views? Wow.
Norman Mattson (4 months ago)
It took the Romans to bring public toilets and baths with running water to flush away the waste in piped sewer systems.
Nick Huggins (4 months ago)
​@Brian Barlow The Gauls & Egyptians invented soap.
Brian Barlow (4 months ago)
Norman Mattson actually the Greeks were the ones who came up with public baths and sewer systems. The Romans came up with things like aqueducts.
Ichsuka (4 months ago)
#1 they were all Bi and loved Nickelback.
Arthas Menethil (4 months ago)
@TopTenz sometimes i feel like the only one who unironically likes some of Nickelback's music.
TopTenz (4 months ago)
Hey, I like Nickelback. Reasons to respect Nickelback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_08uF7qb5g
Bizzymuma (4 months ago)
I have to say, this has made me wonder what were the sanitation habits of other cultures around that time.
pop (2 months ago)
no polluted streets, Greece had a sewage system, l really think so low of this little man who made such a lying video on youtube.
vanagandr (4 months ago)
I believe most cultures did not build cities and continued to use their feces as fertilizers on their fields
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} (4 months ago)
What did the Ancient Greeks wear on their feet? Tennis Zeus.
pop (2 months ago)
Father Philip Kontos (4 months ago)
@the angry australian Greeks don't have an "sh" sound. They often say English words like Shoes as Sues.... so, actually, it's not that far off as a joke.
Robert Telarket (4 months ago)
MICHAEL FLAHERTY: Very very very clever!
alexys q (4 months ago)
...faeces ({; D ...?!? <3
Surely they would wear Nike's
Jacqu'e Carey (4 months ago)
Absolutely LOVING 🥰 this (your) channel Shell! Keep it up. I need my daily dose (of TopTenz, Biograpics, and of course today I found out!!! ❤️❤️) to function.
TopTenz (4 months ago)
This is channel belongs to all the people! But Simon and I keep the profits.
Donnie Yeager (4 months ago)
I love your videos
Joseph Rabozzi (4 months ago)
The movie 300 tells us everything we need to know about Ancient Greece. Probably the most accurate historical film in existence!
pop (2 months ago)
@Andy Kapsar you are correct
Michael Krämer (4 months ago)
@Andy Kapsar I really hope you're trolling.
Andy Kapsar (4 months ago)
@Michael Krämer and the grapjic novel is based on historically accurate information, so therefore 300 is historically accurate
Michael Krämer (4 months ago)
Joseph Rabozzi, you do realize that the movie is based on a comic series, right?
Christel Headington (4 months ago)
@SNOKELPOPS 3 -What's the name of the 300?The 0 ?
RGM RGM (4 months ago)
You said Ancient Rome in #7.
Joe Blow (4 months ago)
Well they did use Roman art heavily throughout the video. So much for accuracy!
TheCriminalViolin (4 months ago)
Which is funny, considering it was the Ancient Greeks who colonized and thus created those who would found Ancient Rome. Italians are (as much as I hate to give the Greeks more fuel for thier massive egos) "Modern Greeks", Or "Western Greeks" as a result of this. So, he wouldn't be entirely wrong to have made that error haha
Pepe The Great (4 months ago)
M 6 do you get turned on by short people ? XD
M 6 (4 months ago)
These comments are why I like the internet, that and midget porn
Angry Applesauce (4 months ago)
It's all Greek to me.
Wonder Woman (4 months ago)
Love this channel! You guys have grown so much since I started walking you. Keep up the great work!👍💕 Edit: *watching * lol sorry
TopTenz (4 months ago)
Thanks, Mom.
Don Dineen (4 months ago)
First again love the vids!

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