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People go missing every single day, and unfortunately, some of their disappearances will always remain an unsolved mystery. When there’s a pattern in the type of victims that go missing, police typically believe it’s the work of a serial killer. But in the case of Missing 411, the explanation to these disappearances could be something else entirely.
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10. Steven Kubacki
9. Maurice Dametz
8. Danny Filippidis
7. DeOrr Kunz
6. James McGrogan
5. Keith Parkins
4. Dennis Martin
3. Bobby Bizup
2. Jaryd Atadero
1. Bessie and Glen Hyde
Unexplained is not the same as un-explainable yet so many of these cases defy logic, explanation or reason. What is left when all those things fail? Is it possible there exists in the world forces or creatures we do not understand? In a world of increasing surveillance can these mysteries finally be solved?
"All the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
Enoch walked with ha'elohim(the angels; literally the gods): and he was gone; for he was taken by elohim(the angels; literally the gods)." - Genesis 5:23-24
There was a case where the green berets were called in to search for him. I think it was one with kid that was on the "big foots" shoulder. But I could be wrong about that.
Edit: Why would the green berets be called in? I've never heard of such a thing and makes no sense lol.
It's weird how so many people are found without shoes and even the where hypothermia is a reason, there are cases where their shoes are found a ridiculous and impossible stretch away. Even some bodies have been found missing feet.
The first one walk away on his own, and return after, and also he doesn't have a degree that he done himself, he was still a student when he ,,dissapeared ",and after a year or something the college where he studied give to him the graduation diploma ,post mortem . They didn't take back his diploma when he reappeared, don't know why because he doesn't obtain that for his merits
James Mcrogan sounds like an avalanche. The Canadian guy that was found 3000 kilometres away in the USA sounds like he suffered a head trauma during a skiing accident and wound up passing out in some sort of vehicle or perhaps in a daze hitchhiked himself into someones car or was barely conscious-Man-napped. Lil Jared was a mountain Lion attack he was even heard to scream. after 4 years blood could be washed away or clothes could have come off in what little struggle poor guy had left after being pounced and dragged/carried up there for consumption.
Keith Parkins-- parents let a 2-year-old play outside during the winter unsupervised? Not suspicious at all...
BTW, I can't find two versions of this story that agree on all the details.
And take anything Les Stroud says with a grain of salt. This is a man who believes that fallen trees are a sign of Bigfoot.
Many of these cases are badly handled, the searches were called off suspiciously quickly, even using the wrong item of clothing for the scent dogs. A few of them give you some serious pause as to whether or not the authorities are involved in some way. I'm glad you did these, though there are dozens of cases in a number of national parks in the US - most of which the person is never found - alive or dead. A significant number are of high intelligence, highly educated, and vanish within feet of other people with no sign of where they went or how they vanished. Also, there was something odd with a few of the cases where they did find remains. They would either find the body without the feet, or they would only find the feet and/or with part of the legs, but not the rest of the body. Danelle Hallan covered Jaryd's case in a fair bit of depth. The sheriff's office REFUSED help from other agencies and have been hiding some of the information from the family.
These cases get to me so bad. Spending so much time in the wilderness growing up it kind of freaks me out, especially because I tended to be a wanderer and my family frequently had to tell me to stay in sight. However, I always hated camping and every family vacation we went on... we went camping, I was always miserable. Plus I had really bad anxiety since I ws a little kid.
It makes me wonder if I could just feel something around me felt off. I still live in view of mountains, and it just looks so fake. It's crazy. I just want to know what happened to these people sooooo bad though.
My dad still spends the majority of his time out in the wilderness, national parks and mountains; hiking, cross country skiing, mountain biking, rock climbing and all that jazz. He doesn't believe in the paranormal at all but I told him I wanted him to listen to some of these cases and tell me his thoughts but have yet to do it. I asked if he's ever had weird experiences though but they were typical like wild animal and weird sounds when he was alone and such. Nothing spooky
kids are small... a big enough bird could easily pick them up... when they aren't found, it's probably because the birds consumed them in a nest... a kid who is 2-3 feet tall would be a perfect size for a large eagle...
Dude if you're going to dedicate a video to a set of books written by a particular author, take 30 second to look on the internet to ensure you pronounce his name correctly. You completely butchered it.
So happy you did this piece Mr. Whistler. These cases of high strangeness are obviously not just batch of “YouTube creepy pasta stories” but a seemingly-unsolvable horror going on in clusters all over the U.S., which btw, occurs to so rampantly in the states of Florida & Texas that Paulides has mentioned quite a few times that he doesn’t know why that should be, but in any case,, he knew long ago he will not ever be able to do a book on those areas period simply due to how many books they would fill & that it would take more than a lifetime to research them all!? Finally, there are now the worldwide cases which are becoming more & mores recognized as true 411 cases due to the usual elements that are known to repeatedly occur to points waaayyy beyond coincidence. Some of these non-U.S. cases going on include Canada🇨🇦, the U.K. 🇬🇧 & Australia 🇦🇺. It’s so annoying how very few mainstream media channels will even acknowledge any of this...
How did Maurice Dametz get out of earshot within 10 minutes? Especially since he had a hard time moving on his own?
If a mountain lion or bear attacked him he would’ve been screaming. There would’ve been blood. It would’ve been obvious; so that doesn’t explain it.
It’s like he just walked into another dimension.
These are fascinating cases and thank you to David Paulides for bringing their missing person cases back into the public eye.
Hmmm... people go missing in national parks... and it's usually followed by 3-4 days of bad weather... sounds like a predator living in the parks... who feels the bad weather coming, and decides to snatch an easy snack before the bad weather sets in...
Seems possible. Kidnapping people as a warning to those who visit National Parks to leave them alone.
But since those people usually don’t understand that National Parks are tourist destinations and public hiking locations, those warnings tend to fall on deaf ears.
It’s a well know “secret” between National Park rangers that “Wild Men” tend to live in these areas “off-grid.”
It is a rare but horrifying occurence when loved ones (most highlighted being children) being taken from their family’s camp site.
The national park service, local communities and (supposedly) some journalists and news organizations won’t talk about it publicly.
This is real I lived in Oregon most of my life and so many times on the news missing people all the time. Many never found. When they did find them 3or 4 days later they were nearly dead. I have been a climber and hiker and know the rules of the forest. 1 never go off trail. 2 never alone 3 food and water 4 if you go off trail mark your. Tree with a ribbon only if it is 10 ft or so.
To me it sound that most of there are just people getting lost, panic, get into shock and get lost and disappear or get eaten by animals. The ones that go missing for a long time seems to follow the previously mentioned scenario but probably have a underlying mental disorder than get triggered by the situation that they will not get out from without medical help. Just because the probability to wander away and survive, and people not being able to find them the x times they looked before is not strange it's actually statistically inevitable that it will occur. There is a reason why you always will look through areas many times, its because its easy to look at the wrong things (same things) walking through an area.
Why magical nonsens should be the answer is beyond me.
The issue with the whole animal theory, is that all of the cases Dave presents have already had that theory ruled out. Often times the cause of death (when they find a body) is indeterminate and when they don’t, they find articles of clothing or other items without any damage and often arranged in neat piles or patterns...
Call me crazy, but I'd wager that a few of these disappearances are linked to the Fey. There's a reason that many people of Old Europe avoided places that were known Fey haunts. In some countries, I imagine that this is still the case. People act like people who lived centuries ago were all superstitious fools, which really wasn't always the case.
Thinking that any or all of these cases are related is likely a mistake. Things happen. People go crazy. Animals kill people. There's not necessarily any reason to expect correlation.
And, yes, the first case does sound like dissociative fugue. It's a fairly rare condition, and not all cases are understood completely.
@D. B. I don't know if you're referring to the first part of my comment or the second, but I'll reply to both.
First, yes, I've not done enough research. I've only read one of his books and listened to about 6 hrs of interviews of him on C2C and the like. I am not super well versed in it.
I have read up on a few of the more famous cases. I understand how one could infer something supernatural. But given the preponderance of the evidence, it's unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely. Animal attacks or madness are known and proven to happen.
Ever watched a body decay in the woods? Happens faaaar quicker than most would think. Vultures, hogs, dogs, bugs, they all take pieces. And quickly.
As to the second part, also yes. I have 2 years of psych study at uni, and a lot more in my spare time. I know VERY little. That's not sarcasm. People spend lifetimes on this stuff. And several of the ones that have, also think that DF is likely in this case.
All that being said, i may very well be wrong. This is simply my somewhat informed opinion. Much love!
I listened to a c to c am interview and looked up a case David talked about in Michigan. It was in the 70s and he mentioned details about rivers, state forest areas, and towns that surrounded this 15 yo's disappearance. Also discussed details of how well he was dressed and weather conditions (snow, cold, etc.).
The funny thing was he talked about a river, town, and state forest area that were hundreds of miles apart from each other. Got details of how well the boy was dressed wrong, and even got the weather incorrect.
I give him the benefit of cognitive dissonance, but he got so much stuff wrong it wasn't even funny.
The 15 year old boy unthinking ran after a wounded deer poorly dressed, in 6 inches of snow, and into a thickly wooded swamp. Yet he disappeared mysteriously? Talk about a recipe for disaster.
Listening to these stories are scarier than ghost stories!
I don't know what is happening, but the fact of the matter is that strange going ons happen in our national parks and it seems like the forest service is complicit somehow. Even if it's just bad record-keeping.
I read these books. There are some things that are pretty strange. The strangest thing is the National Parks Service and the Dept the Interior dont keep records of missing people within the parks. Of course, that would probably hurt park attendance.
The story of keith parkings also reminds me of a story of one of my uncles when he was 3 years old my grandma lost him when he was outside playing and found him about 3 miles into the forest ! It was impossible for him to go that far on his own! 3 years later when he was six the same thing happened but this time he was about 5 miles in the forest , he was abel to speak and he said that 2 little boys smaller then him invited him to go play by the river but when he was following them they just disappeared and left him in the forest.
The forest are dangerous. My great grandma and my aunty from mexico( my auntie was only 13 years old at the time) went to another town but on the way they had to cross a river , they stayed for a while in town because it was raining and when they where going back home it started to get dark and the river had grown more because of the rain . my auntie and great grandma desided to stay by the river and sleep untill the next morning (to them that was normal ) , when they woke up they where on the other side of the rive !! My auntie herself told me the story and she said the forest can trick you and make you go in circles, but she cant explain how they ended up on the other side of the river .
Btw im from colorado and ive herd about most these storys.
#4 the Martin's are my next door neighbors. Mr Bill Martin was an architect and Mrs violet is a sweet lady. Bill passed away from brain cancer 2 years ago and never did find out what happened to Dennis. Sad story..
i wonder if maybe that first guy who was missing for 14 months was just lying. wouldn’t that be the most simple explanation? maybe he decided to do something shady and changed his mind. like maybe he wanted to fake his death, leave his family behind and start over. but then he changed his mind due to the guilt. cuz it’s kinda convenient that he ended up in the same city that some of his family lived in. or maybe he even did something really bad like killed someone, so he faked his death. and then when he realized he wasn’t suspected of any crimes, he came back. who knows, but i’m just saying...it seems a bit fishy.
i wonder how many of these stories or similar stories are caused by someone simply injecting them with a knock-out drug..
im not sure i want to know what happened to them during the "blank" stages of their stories..
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