Welcome back everybody my name is Tucker and todays continuation of the “what’s next” series covers the Oklahoma City Thunder. After being eliminated from the first round of the playoffs in back to back seasons, things are very up in the air for this team. Head coach Billy Donovan has never really been a fan favorite, and this most recent playoff disappointment may be what gets him fired. His transition from one of the most successful young college coaches of all time to the coach of the Thunder was a bit awkward basically from the start, and even though I still think he is a really good coach, I don’t think his biggest strengths are best fit for the NBA. This season the team finished with a 49 and 33 record, which was good enough for the 6th seed in the West - but that is lower in the standings than I am sure they would’ve expected to be going into the season, even though there were some positives to come out of it nonetheless. For a period of time in the middle of the season, Russell Westbrook had fully taken a back seat to Paul George - taking less shots, showing more focus defensively, and committing to being a playmaker rather than chucking shots - which allowed George to play at a near MVP level during that stretch. Nagging shoulder injuries derailed George’s play later in the season however, and Westbrook slowly went back to his shot chucking ways... which ultimately came back to haunt him in their 5 game loss in the first round to the Portland Trail Blazers. Russ was thoroughly outplayed by Damian Lillard in that series and had his worst shooting performance in a playoff series EVER... and now their season is over.
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OKC ruined its legacy of a dynasty when they let Harden go.
Kevin Durrant ruined his legacy when he left OKC for a easy way to a ring.
Paul George ruined his legacy when he stayed in OKC and not go to LA.
OKC is the place where legacy's get killed.
Westbrook is putting up more points than anyone on OKC. Sorry that the Thunder just can't win in the playoffs. OKC just needs more players and trades. And I'm excited for what they have in draft this year.
I think I seen a stat a few weeks back that said the Thunder have ranked dead last in team passes. In my opinion this is mostly because Westbrook/Billy Donovan and if you ask me...one gotta go and we all know which one ain't leaving
Patterson should be cut Felton huh well Roberson injury prone for years develop your beach you have future starters for other teams on your beach it is time for youth move kind of furgerson must become a better shoot and get a drive game shooter shooters bench Westbrook sometimes when out of control get a coach backbone this is from a true thunder fan and 50 plus watching the NBA
Also keep in mind. Good review btw, We need to start looking from Westbrook's point of view. Westbrook and PG13 are the main play makers and the major offensive players on the team. So if Sam Presti can acquire more shooters. I believe that Russ will pass and trust his team and make better plays.
qhamarii0 Well I would trade George AND Westbrook to the LAL, for LaLonzo, sign LaGelo, get the rights to LaMelo next year, and hire Big Poppa to be the head coach and GM.
Not you’ve got a team that’s contending for the next Decade, and will win you 3-5 rings.
While the LAL keep George and trade Westbrook to NOLA for Anthony Davis. Thus setting up Zion to be (player) coached, into the next Russell Westbrook, but with a 45” vertical and a better 3.pt shot .
Billy Donovan needs to be fired! He's not a bad coach but he just isnt the right fit for the Thunder. But I don't think he'll get fired because he's best buddies with Sam Presti, but if he does get fired I would like for one of these coaches to be hired:
Scott Brooks-I would like for him to return to OKC since I think he was a good coach for them and that they fired him unfairly and he had a good relationship with Westbrook, but I don't think it will happen because he's under contract with the Wizards.
Jerry Sloan- He has been a great coach over the years( his win% over his career has been 60% and in the playoffs 50%) with the Jazz even though he hasn't had a job since 2010, I'm pretty sure if Sam Presti called him up he would accept and make the team better and play more attractive basketball with more ball movement and less Isolation plays.
I think that Westbrook and PG could be an elite duo, if they actually put shooters around them. They keep getting defensive minded vets, like Patterson and Roberson, (and to an extent Grant and Schroeder) which makes little sense given that Russ and especially PG are a great defensive backcourt.
No one just chucks shots😑🙄
I feel like it's just so common to say that now with Westbrook. When you start making them, even if it's the same shots, no one says it's a bad shot and he's getting lucky. He's not chucking shots every single time he shoots poorly, he is a poor & inconsistent shooter who needs to improve.
Westbrook has shown this year that he's willing to shift his playstyle towards other players. He took a step down to George and even to Schröder. Since the injuries he's gone back to his old ways. OKC desperately needs shooters so WB can keep playing the playmaker style which he did very nicely this year. PG becomes the top player of OKC and Donovan has to go. Since OKC are stuck with WB, Donovan isn't the right fit. A strict coach who can handle WB's attitude could make it a playoff team.
Okc needs to make Russ a shooting guard, start Shroder at point. Demand Russ see a shooting coach to shoot more on balance and more accurately and then draft in a first round either Cam Johnson, Tyler Herro , PJ. Washington , Marial Shayok or Luka Samanic. Trade Dimolayo and Ferguson two great athletes who can't shoot for a proven shooter who can. Fire the coach, because he's a college coach, not a great pro one! Pretty Simple really!
Why wouldn't they move Adams? He's one of my favorite players in the league, but if they could trade him for a shooter or two and then slide Grant to the 5 you suddenly have a really nice modern lineup to maximize Westbrook.
I'd actually consider trading him for Kevin Love, tbh. Cleveland would get off a couple years of Love's contract and OKC would get the spacing they need. Westbrook, Ferguson, George, Love, Grant makes a lot more sense in the current NBA than what they're doing now.
I would agree with you if the Blazers hadn't lost Nurkic due to injury and had McCollum just coming back from injury and still not being at 100%. Losing to such a short-handed team is just shameful. Plus, the Thunder already underperformed severly by only grabbing the #6 seed.
i would trade adams and 1st round pick and get shooters in that trade or sign them when adams salary is off the paybook, i think they should play 5out like the bucks, westbrook being a slasher like mini giannis and other 4 guys are out of the paint, they need a stretch big at the center, ofc grant can play small ball 5, but they should explore other options, bigs like adams and noel are bad for westbrook, it will be great for him to drive if the paint is wide open and also kick the ball to the shooters on pick and pop and to the corners, westbrook's gravity is still huge so someone of the 4 guys will be open, they really need to look at what bucks doing having a non-shooting ball-handler/slasher and having 3pt shooters everywhere
My personal opinion is that they need a coach with the balls to enforce a game plan, not allowing iso ball EVERY TIME. We know PG can hit clutch shots. Great. Russ isn't clutch, but he could run a spaced floor pick and roll for mid range/attack kind of play even in the clutch. Just gotta get him to stop shooting late 3s or get him better this off-season. And they need some better shooters and a better bench.
I don’t know about y’all but this guy is dumb he said nobody wouldn’t want Russ on there team he still a top 5 pg in the league he’s a great passer he puts out the most effort every night in the nba billy Donovan is the worst coach in the nba he doesn’t use Russell to his advantage Russ needs to go to the hole more he is the best post scoring pg in the nba
They should rebuild. Get a coach with potential, send Westbrook to the Spurs ( if presti respects him like he says), trade Paul to the Lakers for whatever to fill out the roster and hope one of the 3 young SG's turn into a star.
The Solution is easy IMO. Thunder is sending a message about loyalty, so No trading RW or PG.
How to fix this problem? Schroeder is very tradeable, there are teams that need a Point Guard.
Now Thunder are already in a money problem, that is a BIG issue.
But I think that Schroeder might be the key. Either get a terrible player that is expiring like Anderson (might help in the 3 point line)
Or get a good player with a bad contract, Like Kevin Love.
This could only work with a 3 way trade.
So, Schoeder can go to Magic... T Mosgov will go to Cleveland and Roberson to Cleveland. K. Love to Thunder, Thunder gives the First and second to Cleveland. Magic gives a second rounder to Thunder.
Another deal can be made (this depends on if the Hornets keep Kemba)
Trade Adams for Marvin Williams and Biyombo. (wait a second, let me explain)
By having Kevin Love, you have the 3 point line secure, but not so much the rim and since everyone complained about how Adams has a hard time defending the Pick and roll...
Biyombo can do that, he is a good defense center and a fast Center too. Marvin is a good 3 point shooter that can defend and start games or come of the bench. IN ANY CASE. Both Marvin and Biyombo are expiring and if this doesn't work they can easily just take them next year for a cheap contract and not be in the tax line problem anymore. Is it complicated YES it is. With that trade the Thunder might be able to get a second rounder probably.
I wish that the thunder were in a better position. But this will be around where they will be again next year. The thunder are at a 5-8 seed in the west and a likely first round exit for years to come. We realistically need a coaching change and to wait for Westbrook’s contract to expire and then rebuild. Also, trading Adams, Ferguson, Diallo, and our pick could be a possibility. We might have none of these assets by the end of the 2019 draft. But whatever it is the thunder do, I don’t think we can win a title with Russ. As a thunder fan, I’m a bit disappointed with how our potential dynasty turned out. We are left with the worst of the 3 players that we selected between 2007 and 2009. All of them have been league MVP. And Russ is the only one without a scoring title. Durant and Harden are still in the hunt. This just proves how poor general management can lead to an average team for a long period of time.
I know alot of OKC fans and possibly NBA in general will dissagree with this, but i feel like they should see what the trade market looks like for Steven Adams. No doubt Adams is a great big man but for 25m a year i think they could get something that's more of a need and still find a Center in either the draft or in free agency that can do a similar job to Adams.
Adams was picked and rolled or stuck down on the block. The Trailblazers without Nurkic out shot the a fully healthy Thunder. Shooting is important but their lack of center play participated as well. The Thunder also lack a bench. Adams is being paid 25 million dollars for his 1987 Center play.
The Thunder have overspent for mediocrity and individuals
I've been saying this for the longest the Thunder needs to go out their way to get Evan Fournier and Luke Kornett. Westbrook doesnt necessarily have to be a good shooter, as long as he improves his spot up shooting that'll be a huge deal for the Thunder.
This sounds crazy but I think that the thunder should trade Westbrook to the suns for the 1st pick (if they get it) Tj warren and Tyler Johnson. Idk how you feel bout the trade itself. But I think Westbrook should be traded
Relentlessly bully Westbrook until he retires? I dunno... Start a process, trade PG and Adams, look to gain some picks, tank for a few years and do a Hinkie Process again? Or pick up AI from 2k19 and hope they become a real person not a game character...
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