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10. The “Baghdad Battery” Found In The Ruins Of Ancient Iraq
9. Several Ancient Cultures Had Forms Of Air Conditioning
8. Hot Air Balloons Go Back To When They Were Used For Messaging In Ancient China
7. People Exploited The Denseness Of Air To Create Primitive “Refrigerators”
6. Guns Have Been Used In Combat Much Farther Back Than Most People Realize
5. Devices Like The Antikythera Mechanism Allowed For Incredible Mathematical Analysis
4. The Telegraph Was Basically The Texting And Internet Of The Olden Days
3. Ancient Cultures Had Surprisingly Sophisticated GPS Equipment
2. The Use Of Condoms And Pregnancy Tests Goes Back A Very Long Way
1. Kevlar Is A Rediscovery Of A Very Old Means Of Combat Protection
Why do you think he cultivated and maintained his title, Alexaner"the GREAT"
thorax, greek fire & pile driving as well as square block city grids and city hall and libraries at centers of all cities still today.
I can live without most modern cons - but not air con. Take my telly, my smart phone, even the vaccine cleaner and dishwasher. But not the aircon! ( but hey, I live in Australia and have had heatstroke a few times... )
#8- Architects really used to make best use of a house's design to enhance cool breezes. In the US, the dogtrot style house was popular, and in Charleston, all the old houses downtown have their front porch on the side of the house, facing the water to get the sea breeze.
I think the thing about most of these items is that, while they existed, they were used by limited groups of people, and not widespread around the world, as most modern inventions are. They certainly didn't have mass production.
I'm unsure if you read the comments, Simon, but check out the YouTube channel "Clickspring." Aside from the hilariously inaccurate subtitle of "amateur clock maker," he's been remaking the Antikythera mechanism largely by hand/ by making tools to make the individual parts that "may" have existed in the time. Complete with an explanation of why/ how he came up with the ideas. The videos are incredibly well done, as is his precision machining.
So basically, modern people are lazy and used to a comfy life. This video basically explains how humanity has taken over the world through colonization and why some things like bows and arrows can rival weapons today.
Obviously this is not literal especially if you watch the video first.
Maybe there used to be an ancient secret society that focused on advanced technology at the time? I'm not saying the Illuminati but like what if it was some kind of sect who's religious beliefs depended on studying and furthering innovation and research, maybe these ancient devices are their projects that got left behind or something
The Baghdad Battery is bunk, not just because of how it's an incredibly poor storage of electricity, not only because there's no evidence of copper wire used to transmit the electricity, but simply because the possibility of a re-purposed object to use as a battery is not certain evidence it was used as such.
There are lots of materials you can make to conduct some form of electricity, such as Potato Batteries. So why should we regard the Baghdad "Battery's" primary purpose as anything other than storing scrolls (which there IS archaeological evidence for), while in the same breath dismissing that a potato wasn't used primarily for a battery?
Not having proof of something isn’t the same thing as proving something is bunk. In that case you would have to prove it wasn’t a battery. It’s intellectually dishonest and stunted to say something can’t be because you can’t prove it to be 100%.
Point: scroll-storage pots already well-documented, battery is not.
Agreed -- but (to quote Wikipedia) "The artifacts consist of terracotta pots approximately 130 mm (5 in) tall (with a one-and-a-half-inch mouth) containing a cylinder made of a rolled copper sheet, which houses a single iron rod. At the top, the iron rod is isolated from the copper by bitumen, with plugs or stoppers, and both rod and cylinder fit snugly inside the opening of the jar. "
Interpreting how things are found is the bedrock of archaeology. Presently, the only model that explains this finding is that it is a battery. It's not certain evidence -- agreed. But there is no better explanation.
Point: no evidence of copper wire
Copper doesn't have to be in the form of a wire to transmit electric charge, and copper was certainly available. If it had been available in wire form, that would have been highly desirable as loot, so we can't conclude that it was certainly not available -- only that none has yet been found, not that it was technologically impossible (or even improbable).
Potato: for electric use
Potatoes would not survive for modern archaeological digs, nor is there evidence that any were available in the Middle East before Columbus sailed. But if you manage to electroplate anything using potatoes as a power source, please do put a video of that on YT
Funny thing is about the Baghdad Battery is Islam had a huge role in restricting Mathematics. it made manipulating numbers seen as evil, thus greatly curtaining any further scientific advancements in that area.
I worked as a laborer on an archaeological dig in Pompeii twenty years ago, and when the lot of us weren't digging in the dirt, we were touring the many things to see in the ancient city. On one day, we toured a reconstructed house called the House of the Menander, which featured a rebuilt atrium. The walls were frescoed stone while the roof was wooden and had a hole in the middle by which to collect rain water in a floor basin underneath. The day was warm, but as soon as we walked into the atrium, the temperature was fifteen degrees F cooler, and was like this throughout the house. Even the central garden, open to the sky with a colonnaded walkway surrounding it, was cooler. The house we worked in also had a smaller reconstructed garden, and it too was quite comfortable as opposed to the rest of the ruins. None of these featured any air conditioning; the persistent shade and stone walls kept the spaces cool. I can only imagine what an entire house must feel like, particularly the second stories, which used more wood construction.
This video is being very flattering to old technology, as if it's just as efficient as modern technology, but it just "looks" or "seems" primitive. We are leaps and bounds ahead of these technologies, none come even close to what we have nowadays. They don't simply seem primitive, they are primitive.
This reminds me of the fallacious example of Russian astronauts using pencils and the American astronauts spending millions to create space pens. It's a misunderstanding of the surrounding context.
One of the poorer episodes I've seen so far, many really hard inaccuracies.
- Battery: People think it's a battery because people now know what batteries are. People do not think of it's real purpose because there is nothing comparable in the modern world.
- Computer: The Mechanism of Antikythera was _not_ a computer since is did not compute anything. It was more a display, like a clock. It was called a computer by the historian Derek de Solla Price, who apparently just didn't know how a computer is defined.
- Navigation: The sextant itself could only measure the latitude. For the longitude, precise measurement of time was also required, which came much later. Much more fascinating were actually the navigation skills of the Polynesian people, who managed to colonize the Pacific without any sophisticated devices like that. Kinda cool!
Absolutely true, sir. The technology has changed over the years as new inventions are created on the innovations of previous ones, but people have been the same throughout civilization and long before. They have the same emotions, the same basic wants, and the same clever minds with which to shape their world to better suit them. Ancient people were not stupid. In 500 years what will people take for granted that we could only dream of?
Considering that only 0,0000005 perc of the classsical body of knowledge has been passed on to us, it makes one wonder what we do not know. After all mankind has been devolving since the classical age.
In Ancient Greece, an inventor known as "Heron" is thought to have essentially created a steam engine... Except he didn't think to use it as a steam engine which would've meant an Industrial Revolution over a thousand years before the Industrial Revolution... Instead he used his creation as a toy for children... The dude was so close to really changing the whole course of history if he just thought about his invention differently...
It definitely wasn't a.c. but my great grandparents had a farm in south Georgia and their house had a space about 4 inches wide around the whole house that allowed cool air to blow through in the summer and it was easily closed off for the winter.
I always thought that was a pretty clever way to beat the heat, for the time it was made anyway.
And ofc, they still have to be produced. The raw materials didn't appear out of nowhere - minerals were mined and smelted, oil pumped and refined to get plastics, then it all had to be transported by truck, ship, train to a factory that put them together using electricity. And shipped out to be sold ofc.
Ignoring that is ofc just like those "green" people who think new electric or hybrid cars will save the Earth because now our cars pollute less. Except mining lithium for the batteries is horribly dangerous for the environment, the new cars need even more electronics than before which are also polluting to produce, and ofc they never stop to consider where we'll get all that electricity from...
"mass killings are performed by guns" Really those gun just jumped up and killed everyone all by themselves?? I guess it is time to free Anders Breivik, since he obviously had nothing to do with those murders.
+Shawna Burt but there are a lot of problems with that argument, and it's a foolish argument:
1 - drunk driving ---- even after all the "campaigns" about not driving drunk--- still kills MORE than guns and the "campaigns" aren't anti-ALCOHOL they are anti-DWI. A lesser argument for a higher death rate.
2 - The "campaigns" seek to "educate" the public, and we love to educate others, don't we? Okay, let's EDUCATE the public on weapon safety. That won't top the suicides (the #1 cause of gun death) or the homicides, but it'll stop a lot of accidents because people will be EDUCATED instead of IGNORANT. That's basically the argument in every other debate, isn't it? We need to educate. Let's educate.
3 - The arguments for getting rid of guns, because let's face it the majority of loud obnoxious voices are trying to get guns banned or removed or whatever, is that "every life matters". Okay, cool, DRUNK DRIVERS STILL KILL MORE.
4 - Full circle, the campaigns against guns are against GUNS. The campaigns against drunk driving isn't against alcohol but the act of doing something dangerous while under the influence. Campaign against guns in THAT way, maybe?
5 - Mass shootings are a TINy TINY TINY TINY TINY fraction of gun-related deaths yet they are used as the de facto gun-death argument. How about we deal with the source of the problem? People are committing suicide. Why? People are murdering others. Why? Fix that. Spend your millions on that. Fix people rather than try to take away something people like. I mean, the prohibition worked, right?
I mean, I don't like guns and I wish they never existed but this nonsense about guns being the root of mass murder is pathetic. Look at China, where there's a weekly mass stabbing in their version of preschool/kindergarten. Bad people WILL find a way to be bad people. Take away the guns and yeah it's harder to kill more people, but drunk driving kills more children than mass school shootings do in the US each year. Yeah, there's an organization to combat that, but the numbers--and risk--is still higher for being killed by a drunk driver than by an angry teen with a gun.
I'm on a 30 day facebook ban for this joke. Well actually the joke was fine, but someone didn't understand it and my explanation got flagged. The comment was something like "the joke is that Arabs have sex with goats. Obviously I don't genuinely believe that, it's just a joke"
About battery there is also this posibility that it was an innovation which was not used at all, like a prototype or a model of fancy idea of one inventor. But it was too advanced to have been more acclaimed and they couldnt imagine for what to use it in the technological process. Its like a one piece of too great invention but without the other parts of manufacturing, and repeatedly producing and using for some popular activity. I hope my language is enough to describe what it could be. A model of innovation but they could not imagine for what to use it in any repeated circle of production.
Fabric armor may have existed in the past, but Kevlar is a specific type of synthetic fiber with extremely high tensile strength, which makes it practical for use against bullets. Kevlar is not a synonym for fabric armor, and in fact, it has many other uses, such as in tires.
I feel it could be synonymous in the sense that it's a woven thing. It's interesting to see the course of these various technologies over our history. Just recently listened to Stuff to Blow Your Mind podacast episode "The Ince Kingdom of Fibers" and It was a great listen on that culture's woven society, even down to the armor.
+Owain Complete and utter horseshit.... I can reel off 3 to 4 DOZEN RWNJ ammosexuals just off the top of my head. CITE your sources, fabricator. (And try using legit sites; no, Breibart doesn't count.)
Love how you quote something that he doesn’t actually say. If you’re going to quote something then you should use the literal words.
The meaning of what he said is obvious to anyone without an agenda to peddle. Mass shootings are performed by (using) guns.
I come from the tropics and have always stunned people by wearing clothing that covers my entire body all year round.
They assume it is a natural immunity to the heat but it is entirely that little secret about long flowing clothing and thermal transfer....
A few years ago I attended summer classes at a university about 16 miles away. I had no car, so I rode a bicycle. If necessary I could push myself to arrive in about an hour, but most days I took an hour and a half to two hours each direction. This particular summer had highs in the 120s for many days, the upper 110s most days, and I was literally burnt within the first week of class....so I grabbed one of my stretchy and light jackets I'd bought in Asia and proceeded to--not be cool, but not be hot, either.
There were a lot of misstatements of fact in this video! Not only the Freon comment but the one about Japanese using guns and the Europeans weren’t ? Yet Europeans are the ones the sold the guns to the Japanese? What? Their knowledge of history is poor to say the least!
The Baghdad Battery was probably not a "battery". This has nothing to do with us having preconceptions about the area (thank you for the subtle jab at an entire field *frowns*), rather it is because of lack of evidence. It might have been used for "magic" (think 'entertainment' or placebo healing rituals). Maybe try researching a bit more than just superficially the next time.
Seriously, that jab at Assyriology was entirely uncalled for.
P.S.: Ancient freezers were already built by the ancient Mesopotamians (without batteries).
>>It might have been used for "magic" << Yes, and it might have been used as a penny jar. But that isn't the best explanation. If it can hold an electric charge, it can be a battery.
To say it "was probably not" without offering a more comprehensive explanation is dogma, not science.
We can't say it definitely was used as battery -- without evidence, that too would be dogmatic. But for the present, that is the best explanation going. And hardly a jab at you or your field (unless you are against the sharing of information, and guessing at the purposes of artifacts)
@Nyar 23 I find your reply probably was based on feeling personally biased, but if you paid any attention you would have noticed that at least one of your suggestions was actually mentioned. Also, I thought of a giant 'sparkler' like you might see at a concert, the kind that blast sparks into the air at a certain time during the concert. However, neither of your statement or anything you've said can preclude this from possibly being a battery. Much like other scientific advancements, there will be something that just sits there because "what the hell can I use this for?" is the result. Or a scientist is trying to achieve one thing but achieves something else, so the arguably more advanced technology goes unused and wasted because it's not what was desired at the time.
Maybe pull your head out of your Assyriology?
Jeff DeWitt wow someone with actual historical evidence giving real reasoning here, I'm blown away. You are precisely correct. There is 100 percent a reason that it is a "debate". And you just hit the proverbial nail on the head.
Except knowing we the people are armed still gives big government types the willies, that's why they want so badly to take our guns away. Take a look at what happened with Cliven Bundy and his supporters. The federal government, through the BLM, behaved very badly AND illegally and Bundy and his friends, using their right to self defence as guaranteed by the Second Amendment, stood up to the feds. The standoff eventually ended peacefully and a federal judge threw the government's case out "with prejudice" because the government LIED. If the Bundy's didn't have their guns the government would have just walked all over them.
+Eric Beall Glad to hear it bud. While you're sitting on YouTube spending hours writing your asspat fake Patriot comments, I'll be actually enjoying living in America lol. Glad you stay indoors so I can continue to.
Will The Indus Valley is exactly what I was talking about, which existed around 2700 BC.
And again, Skara manually moved their waste from point A to B.
The first TRUE plumbing started around 2700, in the Indus Valley.
“Waste was flushed into a central drain with pots of water... with evidence of draining built inside the city’s walls.”
At this point, we’re arguing in circles.
Our ideas of plumbing are different.
The Indus Valley introduced the first version of the flush toilet, which is what we still use today.
I’m out. ✌🏻
iAmHealthy They had a full fresh and waste water system, it wasn’t just a poorly planned hole in the ground. Also it only takes one example for it to be an invention doesn’t need to have widespread use instantly.
Will um, yes, 2700 BC.
The “plumbing” in Skara was simply a deep hole in the ground that was coverable, INSIDE the house.
2700 BC gave us the first real plumbing, by actually moving the waste away from the premises.
Skara Brea was also 8 buildings large.
The Chinese and other ancient civilizations were hundreds (to thousands) of buildings large.
If we’re talking about basic waste removal, it started earlier than Skara, around 8000 BC.
Googles a click away and these facts are listed in 4 different sources so far. 😌
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